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The Rethink Energy Podcast complements the Rethink Energy weekly strategy bulletin, as we dive deeper into the dynamic factors of the energy market. We discuss the week’s key issues, while providing insight into our own research and forecasts to give clearer direction of where momentum is building through the energy transition.

Guests welcome for future episodes. Write to [email protected] for details.

Hosted by Bogdan Avramuta, with Andries Wantenaar and Connor Watts

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28 March 2024

Rethink Energy Talks Ep. 3: Energy Vault talks gravity storage, batteries, hydrogen storage

Energy Vault’s Marco Terruzzin joins us to talk about his company’s wide array of energy storage solutions including: gravity energy storage, lithium-ion battery systems, and hydrogen storage – all backed up by the VaultOS energy management system.

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22 March 2024

Rethink Energy Podcast 176: First Solar warns China giants beneficiaries of IRA manufacturing incentives, SOECs can become most powerful electrolyzer type with lifespan improvements

In this week’s episode the team discusses:

-First Solar CEO Mark Widmar’s warning that Chinese manufacturers are significant beneficiaries of the Inflation Reduction Act’s 45x incentives, effectively making the US itself another location hosting downstream Chinese solar manufacturing.

-A startup has demonstrated 10-year lifespan for its SOEC electrolyzers, which are more efficient and cost-effective than ALK and PEM in theory, but have more technical hurdles to address.

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15 March 2024

Rethink Energy Podcast 175: Oman to host first new ex-China polysilicon; Airbus faces choice between fuel cells and hydrogen combustion

In this week’s episode the team discusses:

-The new polysilicon factory ($1.3 billion, 100,000 tons, 40 GW) which is under construction in Oman, and who is likely behind it.

-Airbus’s head of ZEROe hydrogen demonstrators, Mathias Andriamisaina, has stated that the company will need to make a choice between hydrogen combustion and fuel cells by some time in 2026 to 2027.

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9 March 2024

Rethink Energy Podcast 174: solar manufacturing came to 642 GW in 2023 with China's wafer exports doubling; Green hydrogen delayed, but still receiving $bn investments

In this week’s episode the team discusses:

-The scale of solar manufacturing in 2023, with Chinese outputs up by 67% to 622 GW at the wafer level, while its wafer exports – almost the sole supply source for all solar cell manufacturing in the rest of the world – up by over 90%.

-Multiple delayed green hydrogen investments and negative coverage may open a space for blue hydrogen, while still only representing a temporary problem for the scale-up of electrolysis-based hydrogen technologies.

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4 March 2024

Rethink Energy Talks Ep. 2: ESS talks LDES and solving Germany's coal dilemma

ESS Inc’s European Director Alan Greenshields joins us to talk about the role long duration energy storage has to play in the energy transition, and LEAG’s major shift towards decarbonizing Germany’s coal fleet with green power and batteries.

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23 February 2024

Rethink Energy Podcast 173: Europe pursues blue hydrogen strategy; complaints about China's 16 MW, 18 MW, 20 MW wind turbine upsizing

In this week’s episode the team discusses:

-Europe’s hydrogen strategy is taking a turn towards blue hydrogen with several projects including new announcements in the UK and the Netherlands.

-Andrew Garrad and Henrik Stiesdal, two very august figures in the wind industry, have called for a halt to the proliferation of ever-larger wind turbine sizes.

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16 February 2024

Rethink Energy Podcast 172: When should your business open a hydrogen refuelling station? China leapfrogs West on pumped hydro

In this week’s episode the team discusses:

-“When should your business open a hydrogen refuelling station?” – a question prompted by a slew of cancelled and closed hydrogen stations in California.

-China’s pumped hydro boom continues, even as Western pumped hydro developments stagnate.

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9 February 2024

Rethink Energy Podcast 171: Australian solar manufacturing roadmap, Germany's H2 gas power plants, Ascend Elements battery recycling

In this week’s episode the team discusses:

-The Australia Solar Manufacturing Roadmap, which advocates heavy incentives beyond even those of the IRA, while eschewing trade barriers.

-Germany’s €16 billion tender for 10 GW of hydrogen-capable gas power plant capacity.

-Ascent Elements’ hydro-to-cathode battery recycling method which promises an immediate 49% carbon footprint reduction, with a 90% goal for 2030.

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2 February 2024

Rethink Energy Podcast 170: Norsk Hydro's aluminum recycling investment, Green steel benefits from sea-trade interruption

In this week’s episode the team discusses:

  • Norsk Hydro’s investment into a US aluminum recycling plant, even at a time when the aluminum price is low – and how magnesium alloys will be adopted by the future EV industry as aluminum’s replacement.
  • How European green steel producers are benefiting from maritime disruption in the Gulf of Aden.
  • Saudi Arabia identifying 1200 sites for green power projects alongside its commissioning of its first large utility-scale projects and its national survey for lithium and other mineral deposits.
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26 January 2024

Rethink Energy Podcast 169: Rethink's Battery Raw Materials forecast, turquoise hydrogen's first big project, China's 100 GW rooftop solar boom

In this week’s episode the team discusses:

  • Rethink Energy’s new forecast on Battery Raw Materials, covering the future of nickel, lithium and cobalt supply and demand – and much more.
  • The world’s first big turquoise hydrogen project, which has very high Capex costs but also produces carbon black as a byproduct.
  • China’s 100 GW rooftop solar boom in 2023, and how this is leading to grid congestion and potentially new distributed energy storage requirements.
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